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Saturday, June 30, 2012
WE ARE NOT IN THE TRIBULATION NOW And A Discernment Test- Also PT 2. On So Called Watchmen Like Steve Quayle
I have had it with
all these who are teaching we are already in the tribulation.
I posted concerning the role of a N.T.
Watchmen, I said what a watchmen was, and is to do. I also said all theses
current, so called watchmen, all, use non bible sources, and all say we are in
the tribulation right now, only one or
two, believe in a rapture so they do not believe we are in the tribulation as
90% of the others do.
I mentioned the worldwide
strange sounds anyone can hear on YT, and many say these are the trumpets of
the seven-year tribulation. The most popular, well-known so-called watchman
Steve Quayle uses more non-bible martial, like the book of Enoch and his Giants
and star gate doctrine. I heard this very popular, considered number 1. main person, Steve Q,
and he started the whole current so called watchmen ministry and, or call. He
said we are already in the bible period of the bowls-Viles, of wrath being poured out,
This fear monger
scares the heck out of people, he also twists the bible, I have heard him speak
hundreds of times, up until one month ago at a watchman's conference, only after
this, has he stopped saying what he has been saying 40 plus years. On every
interview, every radio show, coast to coast, (where he belongs) lol. This so-called
watchmen speaks a lot of truth, but uses to support his theories pagan sources
and esp. the book of Enoch. He always, and I mean always, twists one particular
verse. For the last month Steve has been keeping most of what he has said on
broadcasts, true and simple, that is a good thing.
I just heard a while
ago, right after he started to sound as if maybe he changed, a whole show of the
zombie plague that will be an actual thing sprayed on us to make mankind all
zombies, and he used a very odd verse for it.
Spray what they will, we have the helmet of
salvation and we are given free will, not be against our will, or the lord’s divine protection, so our lord could not in holy righteousness allow us to
become infected with a real zombie virus.
In the same show he talked of there being 72
gates, portals, star gates, on earth and man is , according to Revelations unleashing
these fallen angles of power, read the true story, an angle from heaven, not
man, comes down to the river Euphrates and unleashes three demons, that is the
lords doing, unlocking the strong angles in the river, not man, he says man is
doing it and has already done it, 100% non scriptural.
He said an inside
Intel told him when they powered up C.E.R.N. a portal opened and these eye
witnesses said they were scared to death as they saw on the other side of this
portal, star gate, evil creatures. C.E.R.N. is not a good thing, but again hear
say, and the portal has been opened, and there are 72 of these star gates that
man has created to let loose the demons on us, what can I say, if you believe
this stuff , I pray for you.
I was sad to listen to him go right back to
his bizarre and very poor bible exposition on these events, and why? To scare
you to death, I smell a true sy-op, like Alex Jones, these all sell gold,
silver, food, books, hay if we are In, the near end, of the tribulation, why are
they still sealing stuff? Ask yourself that, it's all about the money and using
sources in the Intel world to tell the world via the internet, what they want to
be told and it is all fear, so this is not of the lord
Please note; what
a zombie is, it is traced to Voodoo, the queen bee, would give her servants
a drug that made them sort of mindless than sent out to the field at night to
harvest her crops, this is historical fact and what a zombie is, a zombie is
not one who eats human flesh, do the research, this is cannibalism and demon possession,
not a true zombie, look up on Wikipedia Voodoo, and see what a zombie is, they
did not eat flesh, but were workers to work the crops. The zombie thing is
from movies and are indeed not zombies as said, but demon possessed cannibals.
Truth and a fact, look for yourself.
As in the days of Noah,
he always stops in mid verse, and goes right into the book of Enoch and says we
will all be devoured by Giants and unless the days be cut short, due to these
monsters, no flesh would survive. Do you see what I mean, my burden, my soul
cries out, so many are being deceived by him and others? This is how false
teaching is done, let us break this down - A discernment teaching and test
1. Start with a
verse, or part of a verse, or part of a Chapter, a bible truth, but not
given in context.
2. Uses Pagan
writing, prophecies from non Christian sources, and the book of Enoch, or the
ultra pagan book called 'the book Of Giants' Google that one and see its source,
it will blow your mind, also the Hopi
Indian Revelations, the lord bless the precious true native Americans, they
were given a raw deal. But they worship the creation and not the creator, Pagan
worship of all living spirits, the sun the moon etc. Next they use Intel from top
secret sources, and code names for high Intel , like four star Generals,
sources only known to them, and in the inner circle of what’s really going on.
The Book Of Jubilees, ever read that? Intensely into dreams, visions and
prophecy and place them equal with the bible. A lot of fear, fear, fear and no
solution, but were all dead, real edifying, this promotes the NWO agenda to
spread fear, and the devil uses fear, to put you in a hopeless state so you
will want to die or just toss in the towel, so the effect is not of our lord at
3. Back to other
verses, and he repeats over and over, never in context and more on non
biblical, pagan writings, a verse, or in this example half of a verse, than in
come the Book of Enoch and all flesh killed by Giants, they are said by his Intel,
deep in a cave in N.Mexico there are hives of these giants is stasis, waiting
to be let go.
4. In this example we
read the half verse used, and than to Enoch. Discernment test folks ready.
Jesus said, as in the
days of Noah, so shall it be in the last days ( They end there and to Enoch
they go) Jesus in the same verse said what?, As in the days of Noah, what
is taking place? Eating, drinking, marring, given in marriage and than
comes sudden destruction.
I called this so called watchman out on this,
and posted why do you always quote just half of the verse and go to Enoch, if
your correct and all flesh is eaten alive by these giants, how is it JESUS
said, not Enoch, that there would be eating and drinking, marriages?
understand now, do you see how these wolves in sheep’s clothing twist the word
and interject pagan doctrine to scare you to
death? No mention of Being eaten by Giants, but men eating, drinking and
marrying, this is what was going on in the days of Noah, and this is what Jesus
said, what Jesus says he means.
Next, I am speechless
to hear so many, so called watchmen, all say we are well into the tribulation,
how can this be, seal one has not been opened yet, seal one starts the tribulation
and is the coming of the antichrist, where is the antichrist, the seven year
peace treaty, the Temple?
Many say the Anti Christ is not a person, but
a system, like the NWO, and they say the temple is not a literal temple, I also
wrote on that and posted a video teaching on this.
Now this is no new orthodox theology I am
writing about, It was recorded in the Anti-Nicene Father in 200A.D, just before
200A.D some of this orthodox bible prophecy was clearly understood by the
Apostle Johns Disciples. Look at what this portion of the anti-Nicene Father
Iranaeus said around 200A.D. Remember, he was the disciple of Clement and Polycarp, who were direct disciples of the Apostle John, the one who was given
the book of Revelations by the lord, so I think the verbal teachings and truths
they learned, far out weigh these current false teachers and false watchmen and
Chap. XXV. — The
Fraud, Pride, and Tyrannical Kingdom
of Antichrist, as
Described by Daniel and Paul.
1. And not only by
the particulars already mentioned, but also by means of the events which shall
occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a
robber, is anxious to be adored as God; and that, although a mere slave, he
wishes himself to be proclaimed as a king.
For he (Antichrist)
being endued with all the power of the devil, shall come, not as a righteous
king, nor as a legitimate king, [i.e., one] in subjection to God, but an
impious, unjust, and lawless one; as an apostate, iniquitous and murderous; as
a robber, concentrating in himself [all] satanic apostasy, and setting aside
idols to persuade [men] that he himself is God, raising up himself as the only
idol, having in himself the multifarious errors of the other idols.
This he does, in
order that they who do [now] worship the devil by means of many abominations, may
serve himself by this one idol, of whom the apostle thus speaks in the second
Epistle to the Thessalonians: “Unless there shall come a failing away first,
and the man of sin shall be revealed, the son of perdition, who opposeth and
exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that
he sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself as if he were God.” The
apostle therefore clearly points out his apostasy, and that he is lifted up
above all that is called God, or that is worshipped — that is, above every idol
— for these are indeed so called by men, but are not [really] gods; and that he
will endeavour in a tyrannical manner to set himself forth as God.
2. Moreover, he (the
apostle) has also pointed out this which I have shown in many ways, that the
temple in Jerusalem
was made by the direction of the true God. For the apostle himself, speaking in
his own person, distinctly called it the temple of God.
Now I have shown in the third book, that no
one is termed God by the apostles when speaking for themselves, except Him who
truly is God, the Father of our Lord, by whose directions the temple which is
at Jerusalem was constructed for those purposes which I have already mentioned;
in which [temple] the enemy shall sit, endeavouring to show himself as Christ,
as the Lord also declares: “But when ye shall see the abomination of
desolation, which has been spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the
holy place (let him that readeth understand), then let those who are in Judea
flee into the mountains; and he who is upon the house-top, let him not come
down to take anything out of his house: for there shall then be great hardship,
such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall
be.” (Mat_24:15, Mat_24:21)
3. Daniel too,
looking forward to the end of the last kingdom, i.e., the ten last kings,
amongst whom the kingdom of those men shall be partitioned, and upon whom the
son of perdition shall come, declares that ten horns shall spring from the
beast, and that another little horn shall arise in the midst of them, and that
three of the former shall be rooted up before his face. He says: “And, behold,
eyes were in this horn as the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking great things,
and his look was more stout than his fellows.
I was looking, and this horn made war against
the saints, and prevailed against them, until the Ancient of days came and gave
judgment to the saints of the most high God, and the time came, and the saints
obtained the kingdom.” (Dan_7:8, etc.)
Then, further on, in
the interpretation of the vision, there was said to him: “The fourth beast
shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall excel all other kingdoms,
and devour the whole earth, and tread it down, and cut it in pieces. And its
ten horns are ten kings which shall arise; and after them shall arise another,
who shall surpass in evil deeds all that were before him, and shall overthrow
three kings; and he shall speak words against the most high God, and wear out
the saints of the most high God, and shall purpose to change times and laws;
and [everything] shall be given into his hand until a time of times and a half
time,” (Dan_7:23, etc.) that is, for three years and six months, during which
time, when he comes, he shall reign over the earth.
Of whom also the Apostle Paul again,
speaking in the second [Epistle] to the Thessalonians, and at the same time
proclaiming the cause of his advent, thus says: “And then shall the wicked one
be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus shall slay with the spirit of His mouth,
and destroy by the presence of His coming; whose coming [i.e., the wicked
one’s] is after the working of Satan, in all power, and signs, and portents of
lies, and with all deceivableness of wickedness for those who perish; because
they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And
therefore God will send them the working of error, that they may believe a lie;
that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but gave consent to
Note; I have
posted that portion of the bible numerous times 2 Thess. Ch 2 verse 1-6
Chap. XXVI. — John and
Daniel Have Predicted the Dissolution and Desolation of the Roman Empire, Which
Shall Precede the End of the World and the Eternal Kingdom
of Christ. The Gnostics Are Refuted, Those Tools of Satan, Who Invent Another
Father Different from the Creator.
1. In a still
clearer light has John, in the Apocalypse, indicated to the Lord’s disciples
what shall happen in the last times, and concerning the ten kings who shall
then arise, among whom the empire which now rules [the earth] shall be
partitioned. He teaches us what the ten horns shall be which were seen by
Daniel, telling us that thus it had been said to him: “And the ten horns which
thou sawest are ten kings, who have received no kingdom as yet, but shall
receive power as if kings one hour with the beast.
These have one mind, and give their strength
and power to the beast. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall
overcome them, because He is the Lord of lords and the King of kings.”
(Rev_17:12, etc.) It is manifest, therefore, that of these [potentates], he who
is to come shall slay three, and subject the remainder to his power, and that
he shall be himself the eighth among them. And they shall lay Babylon waste, and burn her with fire, and
shall give their kingdom to the beast, and put the Church to flight.
This last portion
clearly shows what this first bible commentary and disciple of John made clear concerning
These writings are
like commentaries, they are not equal with the bible, understand, these are
writings of the first generation and second generation in early Church history
that had more verbal teaching than texts. It is bible works, based on the
bible and not pagan or a false book like Enoch. We use commentaries today? This
writer was the first one who did apologetic's, and commentaries in early Church
history, so we get a snap shot of what early orthodox Christians were taught
and believed and it lines up with the word. No rapture.( Pre-Tribulation Rapture)
The antichrist, the temple all was known since
the bible was written, most just refuse to heed the word and listen to
doctrines of men.
Chap. XXVII. — The
Future Judgment by Christ. Communion with and Separation from the Divine Being.
The Eternal Punishment of Unbelievers.
1. If the Father,
then, does not exercise judgment, [it follows] that judgment does not belong to
Him, or that He consents to all those actions which take place; and if He does
not judge, all persons will be equal, and accounted in the same condition. The
advent of Christ will therefore be without an object, yea, absurd, inasmuch as
[in that case] He exercises no judicial power.
For “He came to divide a man against his
father, and the daughter against the mother, and the daughter-in-law against
the mother-in-law;” (Mat_10:25) and when two are in one bed, to take the
one, and to leave the other; and of two women grinding at the mill, to take one
and leave the other: (Luk_17:34) [also] at the time of the end, to order the
reapers to collect first the tares together, and bind them in bundles, and burn
them with unquenchable fire, but to gather up the wheat into the barn;
(Mat_13:30) and to call the lambs into the kingdom prepared for them, but
to send the goats into everlasting fire, which has been prepared by His Father
for the devil and his angels.
(Mat_25:33, etc.) And why is this? Has the
Word come for the ruin and for the resurrection of many? For the ruin,
certainly, of those who do not believe Him, to whom also He has threatened
a greater damnation in the judgment-day than that of Sodom
(Luk_10:12) but for the resurrection of believers, and those who do the will of
His Father in heaven. If then the advent of the Son comes indeed alike to
all, but is for the purpose of judging, and separating the believing from the
unbelieving, since, as those who believe do His will agreeably to their own
teaches what rapture teachers twist concerning one being taken and one left
behind, this is orthodox, Christian Bible Prophecy.
UPDATE-Book No Longer Posted, working on a new one sorry,
I cannot stress
enough how all true bible believers must arm themselves in these last days with
these bible truths, if not, you will be caught unaware and maybe even fall
from the faith.
I am so burdened over this, I must sound the
holy alarm, as a Watchmen ( Pastor, Evangelist, Teachers Are to be watchmen)
against false doctrine, that is the call of a true watchmen. There are a couple
who call themselves watchmen that are Godly, sincere men, but all have been
seduced by Steve Quayle, he is the ultimate one.
Ever listened to Steve Quayle, or his site,( I will give the link only for reference) start with his YT videos esp, more than a month old and you will hear, let your spirit discern this false man, and false teacher of pagan doctrine.
I rarely say names, but posted, as a minister
I am accountable, not to divide , or gossip, but expose false doctrines and people
by name who are doing it, I also wrote on the bible mandate to do this and
showed many verses on why it is Ok to do so. As Paul warned Timothy of Alexander
the copper smith, and many others by name, not to mention when he
refuted face to face The Apostle Peter.
And so this post
is my virtual face to face and rebuke to Steve Quayle, and others.
I could give a whole list of false prophets ,
false teachers, but a hit list is not what is intended, nor do I wish to over
judge a man, but you know a tree by its fruit and its doctrine, if false, it
must be exposed and brought to light. It’s a bible N.T Practice.
I try and drop a name
here and there only when I am trying to teach on false doctrine and current false doctrines, teachers that are popular and leading the masses astray, not to do so would
be in disobedience to Ezekiel CH 33, I added in the last post about this
current online trend of false teachers. I mentioned Joel Olsteen ( Post Modern), Peter
C.Wagner, Rick Joiner, and other Manifest sons of God, third wave revival,
prosperity teachers, and the Toronto
Airport movements and
If you have not done
so , read the post on the Book of Enoch, it is not long and I would to God, the
well meaning watchmen and teachers of prophecy who swear by this book would
read that post and see why I have such a burden over this issue.
It is not time for
confusion, but clear thought, sound doctrine, we need this in these last days,
all of us, so we will not be fooled and tricked by the Antichrist , who
will, if at all possible, lead astray the very elect, dear elect one, do not be
one of them please read, the posts, read and re- read this one and
use discernment, see if this is sound or not, use your mind and your sword and
let us reason together, and may all come to know these critical truths, learn
how to weed out all the false teachings, doctrines, prophets, that are all over