Dealing With Suffering Pt 2- A Very Good Study

If I am not mistaken, I believe that part one of this message, was one of my first text messages on this site and the old evangelist site, It was named, " how to deal with suffering' This, part 2 gives more insight to suffering, may the lord speak to hearts today, bringing , hope and encouragement on this vital theology of the N.T.

1Pe 4:16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf

1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?

1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

It has been said, 'Salvation is a free gift, but discipleship costs you everything'

How true this is, when suffering and not knowing why, or even if you know why it is no fun. Suffering and not knowing why, is hell. In the word, the N.T. if read in context, one will discover the whole message of the N.T. is one of suffering, it gives hope while in troubles, comfort to the weary, but not always a promise of why, or how long, or will It ever be healed.

Our lord is faithful, always, this never changes, understanding the faithfulness of the lord helps us to keep our wits about us when a sudden fiery trial comes upon us to try us, out of no where and fiery at that.

A good theological nutshell would be, we all go through it, we are not alone, we will make it and it is the Gospel way.

Email me for your Dr. degree now, you passed LOL. I always wonder why colleges do not offer a degree in suffering as the main tract of study, I know why now, it comes in the christian walk, I can say more than likely, everyone reading this could have an honorary DR. Degree in suffering. One problem, in the bible school called life, we do not get any prize until we make it to heaven, as no degree will matter than, as many do not now, a degree never teaches you how to stand under pressure, live in poverty, persecution, no, life by the loving hand of our father teaches us this, and we will have a reward, if we faint not, it is not easy, I care not what anyone says, it is not fun. No one is sadist and prays, 'please lord may I have a second helping of grief, how about another serving of the roast beef of pain'? I do not think one would pray that way. There is always room for jello in our lords loving hand, with the main meal we are given.

It does take , prayer, the word, making a choice to rejoice, even when dry, or sad. It is hard work to live a life that is pleasing to the lord. This is not a contradiction as we have been taught, no matter how much you do for the lord and his kingdom, he can not love you anymore than he does right now, this is true, but we are also taught about the narrow way and the wide way, bible characters who gave up, caved in. We also must strive lawfully as Paul says. This does not contradict the grace message, it is all about love and grace, persecuted etc. it is all the love of our lord that knows better than us , and allows things in our life to teach us, needed lessons, and prepare us for glory, and the hard days ahead.

This thought is in the text verse as well.

1Pe 4:18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?

scarcely -Greek;

Probably by a variation for G3425; with difficulty: - hardly, scarce (-ly), + with much work.

The word before, righteouss, clearly teach us this is irected to those that are truly saved., they can lose their salvation.

From G1349; equitable (in character or act); by implication innocent, holy (absolutely or relatively): - just, meet, right (-eous).

Lastly to prove out this at see one more word in the verse,


From a primary word σῶς sōs̄ (contraction for the obsolete σάος saos, “safe”); to save, that is, deliver or protect (literally or figuratively): - heal, preserve, save (self), do well, be (make) whole.

sodezo, means what it says in the N.T. saved, salvation etc. The theological form of study about salvation has a name in bible school called SOTERIOLOGY , taken from the word, soterion - salvation, soter, savior, preserver.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

There are 57 times this word for saved is used in the N.T. the Greek word Sode-zo, that is, salvation being a word from this, and it means the same, I am getting off message, I just do not understand how any bible believer, can believe in the doctrine of once saved always saved, it can not be found, security, that is all over, but all the promise's, an the good things, have the IF, conditional word with it, read many N.T. promises, even O.T. ones and see, we are always to do our part and in suffering we have our part to play. We reap what we sow. Understand my thinking?

If you want to do a N.T. study on your own, it will teach , almost all you need to know about suffering, persecution, read 1 and 2 Peter.

A way this all works, let me put it this way.

Someone close to you hurt you. It took a while, but you forgave them, deep inside the hurt remains, hard feelings towards that person. The lord knows this. The O.T. says in Proverbs,' A brother offended is harder to win back than a walled city', how true, the Lord rips off, in love, the tape and if it still bleeds, even a little, more must be done to bring about a scab and 100% healing. This can be a trial by fire, there is no way out, your invited to a gathering, the person is there, you go to the market, the person is there, so you duck and cover, like you learned in the 60's for an H bomb, LOL. Think of a store, down an isle you go fast, they did not see you,( You know, the one you forgave) thank the lord, but in-line guess who just pulled the shopping cart behind you , in your line, yes right behind you?

There is someone else in that line, even closer, in your heart, he already set the whole thing up. It works like that, we all know it. I have ducked and covered many times, even the feminine product isle if needed. In the end, as the lord always has his way, no matter how long, no matter how we resist, he always wins, amen, we are healed of hurt and have love, love is a fruit and that is the whole message, to make us more like our lord. Takes a life time , but worth every scar, O' to be more like Jesus, that is my only cry, my only ambition, to be like Jesus, what about you dear reader.

What hope the last verse in the text gives, this should be put to memory by all.

1Pe 4:19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.